I’m not gonna lie. I love a little family drama, especially when that drama that has LONG past. Drama in my current living family? Not quite as fun.
My Munn branch seems to have quite a little bit of it, including the guy who brought us to this country in the first place and presumably gave generations of Munns their last name.
Family crest for the Munn family of England.
The farthest back we have traced my Munn branch of the family is to a fellow named Thomas Atherton Munn. What has been assumed and asserted by many is that Atherton was originally the last name of this family and Munn was added to disguise some sketchy life choices.
Story One
My dad says that this is the story that my great grandfather (John Darl Munn, Sr.) swears by: Thomas Atherton Munn was actually born in England and was being held in a sort of jail. Supposedly he had stolen a horse or something of the like. He, along with 60 others, broke out from jail and he somehow escaped to the United States. He swapped his middle and last name to avoid getting caught. This is how he became a Munn and was no longer an Atherton.
Story Two:
Thomas Atherton was born in New York/New Jersey, and his father was actually a British Loyalist (redcoat) in the US during the American Revolution. When his father deserted the British side he change his last name to his wife’s maiden name.
Other rumblings about the family/person of interest:
There was a horse thief in the Atherton family who was hung. The family was so ashamed that they changed their name to a maiden name.
What do the facts say?
- Thomas Atherton Munn lived in Bradford County, Pennsylvania in 1820, 1830, and 1840.
- Thomas Munn was one of the early settlers in Litchfield, Pennsylvania.
- He married Mary Wolcott and had 13 children.
If there’s anyone out there who has done research to come up with something solid about this horse theif/son of a redcoat, please let me know. The problem is that multiple books written during or about this time have opposing facts.
For those of you who might be cousins out there, here is how TA Munn is related to me:
He is my 5th great grandfather.
Thomas Atherton > (son) Silas Munn > (son) John Parks Munn > (son) Willard Ord Munn > (son) John Darl Munn Sr. > (daughter) Gene Odelle Munn > (son) John Brown > (me!) Erin Brown
Thomas Atherton Munn is my 4th great grandfather. Thomas Atherton > Charles Munn > Charles Munn > Charles Munn > Charles Munn > Charles Munn > (me) Ron Munn.
I have been trying to solve this story for over 3 decades with no luck! I have heard all of these stories over the years but I cannot prove any of them as being true. If he was an Atherton, then we should be able to find a record of an Atherton giving birth to Thomas but I have not found that yet.
In 1973 my wife and I found the grave of Thomas Atherton Munn and his wife in Litchfield, PA. We dug it up from face down in the mud in a cemetery that was totally overgrown and in a field that was not visible from the road.
Just last month I helped a man rediscover the headstone and the cemetery (he had been trying to find the cemetery for years). We will soon have a picture of the headstone posted on the internet.
I have done a DNA test but we need a lot more Munns to volunteer to get this DNA test so we can solve this mystery!!! My DNA does not match anyone with the name of Atherton in England or the USA!
Ron Munn
Ron, That’s amazing! Thanks so much for responding. When you get the photo of the headstone I would LOVE a link to it so I can share it on this blog. That’s so interesting that you got the DNA test and there’s no match to Athertons. Maybe the whole story is really that…just a story. Hmmmm….
Here is the info for the headstone for Thomas Munn 1778-1850. A picture is attached to my family tree on Ancestry.
My tree is named:
Munn McClellan Merge Made Me June 29 2012
If you cannot get to the headstone picture, please email me for a copy.
email me anytime at roadrunnerron@hotmail.com Ron Munn
Thanks for the information. Do you by chance have a family tree online so I may see if I am of the same line?
Gardner, email me for some genealogy help.
I do. I have one on ancestry.com. Are you at member on there? It’s the Brown/Munn tree. However, I am an editor on my dad’s tree. He is johnbrown340. My username is amanita80.
My tree (on Ancestry) is named:
Munn McClellan Merge Made Me June 29 2012
roadrunnerron@hotmail.com
Hey i have been trying too find out about the munn name this was really good too read and interesting av found out the munn name from italy and spain but mostly from england yorkshire and new england in usa some from irland its so confusing too follow up the munn name dotted everywhere lol my munn family that i know of is mostle from zcotland and irland
Brookemunn i am also from scotland too
Just found the gravestone you posted excellent find. My grandfather Thomas Munn went to search for it a couple of years back with no luck. You just made our day
Nick, I am so glad that you made this connection to the headstone. I think that I used to email your grandfather a few years ago when he lived in Florida (if I have the right guy).
Hmmm.. I have much to say on the matter…
If anyone is interested.. contact me about my “documented”
long line of the family Munn….
Very interesting stuff…
g munn,
I would very much like to read your info. I have been searching for Thomas Munn sources over 20 years. I have people in England searching and so far, no one has come up with anything. Thank you for letting us know you found sources. To add to the story, I also hear Tom and his two brothers with all 3 wives arrived together.
I would love to hear about your documented Munn line. Please send me any info that you can. Do you have a family tree on the internet? Ron Munn
For anyone that is interested in joining we have a facebook group called Munn with over 500 members with a good few of them looking for the same answers we are. You are all welcome very welcome to join us.
Cheers,
Garth R. Munn
PS just to note I am not “g munn” that posted earlier, but we would all like to see your document if you would like to share. Every little bit that helps build our lineage is always greatly appreciated.
Garth, I do not see the Munn group on Facebook. Is it called “Munn” of is there more?
Thanks.
Garth, I am also a member of the facebook group Munn. I highly recommend all people with any Munn connections to at least scroll through all of the wonderful Munn history posted there.
The G.Munn listed above sure DOES NOT seem to have much to say about the Munn family!!! It has been 10 months since he commented. I wish that we had a way to contact him!!
Ron Munn roadrunnerron@hotmail.com